Where should I file soul?

I transferred the Psyber-L mailing list to Yahoo the other day and had to put it in a category. There never is one for what I want. Soul does not fit under Health, or Computers, or Hobbies or Religion for that matter. Psychology might be ok, except that it has been corrupted – that means it would be filed in among advertising, PR, HR and CBT and so on, not always good company for the soul. This article from First Monday by Marcia J. Bates explores the problem: After the Dot-Bomb: Getting Web Information Retrieval Right This Time

Succumbing to the “ontology” fallacy
The hot new term in information organization is “ontology.” Everybody’s inventing, and writing about, ontologies, which are classifications, lists of indexing terms, or concept term clusters (Communications of the ACM, 2002). But here’s the problem: “Ontology” is a term taken from philosophy; it refers to the philosophical issues surrounding the nature of being. If you name a classification or vocabulary an “ontology” then that says to the world that you believe that you are describing the world as it truly is, in its essence, that you have found the universe’s one true nature and organization. But, in fact, we do not actually know how things “really” are. Put ten classificationists (people who devise classifications) in a room together and you will have ten views on how the world is organized.

Got this from Cory in boing boing, he liked it. I noticed that in a discussion, Cory with Justin the topic comes up again, and Justin makes it very clear:

Nice rant about categorization. Talking about the universe and washing machines, you nail a problem I’ve had writing on the web about my life. For example, I’m in love with a woman and I want to write about her on my site. Where do I file her in my hierarchical life-cum-directory structure? Under San Francisco, where we met? Or Oakland, more precisely, which was somehow created as a subdirectory of San Francisco? Or maybe Japan/Tokyo where we had the first date of the rest of our lives. Maybe I’ll marry this woman and so maybe she should be her own subdirectory! Or a subdomain off Justin.org. I link to her site in the meantime; but wouldn’t it be nice to say a few tender words as I pass a web surfer from my site to hers?

I think the answer is in the direction of better conversations, and automated mass conversations via collaborative filtering, like in our project that never eventuated I like this!

Update:I have read Marcia J. Bates’ article with interest. It has some great ideas and information, SDI = ”push” technology which has a long history. faceted classification would be worth studying up, the Bradford Distribution is a concept that made immediate sense. HOWEVER, the overall thesis, that some sort of rationality of classification could prevail and actually be useful I have doubts about. I remain positive about the idea of groping through a tangle of information. Not information, relationships, conversations. No where in the article does she really mention *self organising information* emails stored on my computer are self organising. I can search them by title, or test date, author etc. And no where does she mention the word chaordic, or collaborative filtering.

My hunch is that there is great value in the work Marcia does in specific niche areas. BUT. Just as she says linguists are not much good at thinking systemically about information retrieval, I am now thinking that information researchers do not grasp the nature of… surfing the noosphere. God, there is hardly a way to speak about the soup we are in, but I bet that someone right in there well netted-in could find anything on the net, by hunches, by surfing through the links on likely pages, by blogging, by Googling through usenet and asking the odd guru. That way we’d not only find the information, but learn that we did not actually need it, or that there was a new paradigm, or what to do with it once we had it, or that it was not actually cataloged anywhere, but in my grand mothers drawer.

I’ll sprinkle hyperlinks through all of the above in good time as I think on this one I am with Justin – it is a rhizome like beast. I also want to follow up on Cory’s piece about cataloging.

A Linux user goes back

The article is worth reading. Here is an email I sent to Tony in response:

Hi Tony,

Your item makes good sense to me, as I am back here in XP
*unable* to do what I want in GNU/Linux.

One thing you do not mention that will take me back as soon as I
am able... the *values* implicit in the GPL.

Human knowledge is built on the shoulders of those before us for
a long time, that tradition is under severe threat, and the GPL
is one of the more hopeful phenomena of this era.

I like it when RMS says thing like "I don't care!" to many of
your valid points. Freedom is more important, the freedom to
build knowledge for the use of us all.

I will pop this on my weblog, and if in the millions of emails
you will get, you manage to respond to this in some way, I will
link to that too.

Thanks,

Walter

Re: bill’s test

From my post to the mailing list:

It turns out that it works fine in IE but not Mozilla (at least
1.00 release candidate 3 - I will try an upgrade).

What I had done to create the corruption was to omit a closing
quote around a url in a link. Easily fixed in safe mode in IE.

My IE was crashing, but that is another story, reinstall,
reactivation 24 hours later...

Now IE is working, Blogger is working, Yay! I will keep you
posted re latest version of Mozilla, as it would be good to have
that functionality there too. Can others use Safe Mode to fix
such things in Mozilla?

Walter

New McLuhan book – Probes

Here is the jacket summary on the Ginko Press site, looks like a site worth noting: (thanks for the link Josh)

Until now no book has explored the full expanse of Marshall McLuhan’s thinking or writing. The Book of Probes is an exciting new publication that brings together for the first time a collection of his most prescient aphorisms and excerpts from his prolific life’s work. It is a revolutionary book that distills the wisdom and wit of the brilliant man who was first to understand and articulate thoughts on media, privacy invasion, the information environment, and much more. McLuhan’s bold perceptions, such as ”obsolescence is the moment of superabundance” he called ‘probes’ and they gleam today like hidden gems in his many books, in more than 200 speeches, in his classes (especially the Monday Night Seminars), and most of all in the nearly 700 shorter writings that he published between 1945 and 1980.
Over the past couple of years Eric McLuhan, Marshall McLuhan’s son, and William Kuhns have combed through all of his writings to extract and compile a complete collection of ‘probes’ which has become The Book of Probes.
Not only are these one hundred percent McLuhan’s own words, these are McLuhan’s finest words and, incredibly, most ‘probes’ are so fresh they will be new to even the most avid McLuhan readers and enthusiasts. The Book of Probes opens a new portal to McLuhan’s mind and sets a new precedent as to how we will interpret and appreciate McLuhan in the future. Readers will marvel at how the consistency, the clarity of concept, and the abundant wealth of observations, some made twenty or thirty years apart, dovetail to form a whole.
Art Director and Designer David Carson presents McLuhan’s work with refreshing new visual insight, and in doing so has added his indelible mark to a body of work that is destined to be recommissioned and reinterpreted by countless generations to come.
With commentaries by Eric McLuhan and Terrence Gordon, author of Marshall McLuhan – Escape into Understanding.

Also on the Ginko site: Letter from Marshall McLuhan to Harold Adams Innis

amazon

Links as a pseudo-monetary unit?

Jill Walker’s (jill/txt) article:Links and Power: The Political Economy of Linking on the Web

Links have always been fundamental to the web. In the last few years their value has become regulated as search engines and other systems that find and define the structures of the Web increasingly index links and anchor text in addition to keywords and page content. In these projects, links are seen as objective, democratic and machine-readable signs of value. This paper discusses the implications and the power structures inherent in this relatively undiscussed but influential change in the structuring of the World Wide Web.

www.blogchalking.tk

Daniel Pádua www.blogchalking.tk, has come up with an idea. I did his thing. Maybe this will help in the process of making amore intelligent Web. A bit like the promise of XML bot more organic. And here is my bit as part of a post:

Google! DayPop! This is my blogchalk: English, New Zealand, Christchurch, City, Walter, Male, 56-60!